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 Post subject: Re: Detached Commanders
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:36 pm 
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mihalik wrote:
C. Hecht wrote:
Are you sure?
I see Ashby in 1st Kernstown as a Conf. brigade leader and he shows 9 hexes command range what is 3 times that of the brigade command range. Testing showed that it works with the shown command range, 9 hexes OK but 10 hexes means detached.


You are right. Yet apparently from Piedmont on the cavalry brigade leaders only have a command radius of 3. Wonder how they did that! Or why.

Yes, my theory for this is that the game may check the OOB and apply the 3x to the command range only if the formation is of cavalry type only. Looking at the Piedmont OOB under the Conf. Cavalry Division the brigades there have all some infantry listed in them. Could be the reason why only the normal range is applied.

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 Post subject: Re: Detached Commanders
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:30 pm 
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mihalik wrote:
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Thanks General Miller.
A little hard to understand but I suppose it should somehow limit the possible command bonus than can roll down a command chain and also should punish command chains without proper staged command levels.
I do not have the OOB for 1st Bull Run but afaik as the corps system was not yet used the army commander has the divisions directly under him, that these division commanders can't utilize the regular AC command range but have to be in a range the equals the CC command range seems ok, it should be punished that there is no corps.
A missing command level should be punished and if the designer didn't what it to be that way he could simply have classify a formation on a different command level. The OOB piece from Gettysburg provides an example for this, although 2d Corps Arty Bde is obviously designated as brigade it's marked as division and by that can use the usual command range of a CC.

In the end it's seems good the way it works but unpractical, the players have to check the ingame Organization Dialog, only there they will see what a formation is classified despite it's naming.


Worse for the Confederates. Since they only had brigades at 1st Bull Run they have to stay within six of their army leaders.


Wonder how the ingame OOB is, effectively there are 2 Conf. armies, Johnston commanding the Army of the Shenandoah but also being the overall commander while the bigger Army of the Potomac being lead by Beauregard.
Now, if all the Conf. brigades are only classified as brigades in could indeed be a problem, but afaik better brigade leaders are with the Conf. and if that is correct they may get along on their own unlike the Union brigade leaders.

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 Post subject: Re: Detached Commanders
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:55 am 
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The explanation regarding command range being less than shown makes perfect sense and the positions of the two detached division commanders fits the reduced command range.

Thank you all for helping to clarify!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Detached Commanders
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Ken,

Good information. I am taking note.

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 Post subject: Re: Detached Commanders
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Me too, thanks Ken.

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