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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:59 am 
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Are the rebs at a disadvantage in campaign Peninsula as their guns are broken down, which to my way of thinking means that there are more guns on the road so you will get more jams. This could be most upsetting in the woods.


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Unfortunately yes. The mixed up gun sections tend to use more ammo than equivalent Union batteries and take up a lot more road space when on the move. I have had to leave the artillery behind in those scenarios with large troop movements by road. Eventually you run into a wooded area around the road that forces those one and two gun sections to stretch out to 3-6 hexes as compared to one of those nice compact Union batteries. Only plus for them is being able to shoot at multiple targets with a battery equivalent but I would trade that for better groupings.

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Well that is the last time I will show compassion for the rebs I was feeling a bit sorry for them. I was going to offer not to use all my art on them but I guess I will have to reconsider. Was that an invitation to come to Richmond Col Peters I think I may enjoy a few days rest and shoping. I think I know your cousin Col Sanders owns a few fried chicken shops up here;-).


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Sir,

General Frank LJ Mullins,
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XV Corps,
Union Army of the Tennessee.
Back in the saddle.
Seems you have got lost while I have been away I hope to clear your mind and bring you back to the side of truth and justice. I will take you to the top of the hill and I will show you the light. Where little southern boys and little northern boys will play hand in hand under one banner that of The United States of America.
God bless and save the Union.


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To quote Bill:

"Actaully Old Banshee we hashed this out last week and the bottom line is that its a tradeoff. Drew put in more ammo for the Rebs so you get more shots and more chances to disrupt the Yanks. Which in a way is a victory in itself sometimes."

Actually, he did bring up a different problem. We hashed out the ammo problem in the other thread. This one brings up a new, or another as the case may be, problem, stacking. All those one and two gun batteries take up a lot of road space because the game doesn't allow stacks to use road movement. You can work around in most situations but eventually your column runs into a choke point (woods, slopes, water, etc.) and the Reb columns start stretching out with one gun per 125 yards of road while the Yankees get six guns per 125 yards of road.

There is another gotcha but it doesn't occur often. There is an 8 unit stacking limit which is rarely a problem in the games before one gun units. Now it occasionally occurs when you have small regiments and one gun units in the same hex.

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I find the road space / bottleneck problem pretty realistic but it should apply to both sides, obviously. Corinth had all batteries for both sides in two-gun sections; that I can understand. It's a bit difficult for me to think of a good reason for having only *one* side's artillery broken down in sections.

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Dierk, while it's an effective way of showing it or not, it seems that the idea behind using sections this way is to show the relative effectiveness of the guns. The Confederate artillery is was badly organized and used in this campaign. I suspect that this is an attempt to "hobble" the CSA in the same ways.



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Gary . . . .

"Hobble" - to hamstring or tether . . . an ancient word - last in common usage back in the '60's! Ahhhhhhhhhh! . . . I luvvit! [:)]

Or p'raps Ye meant " nobble " . . . - to sabotage? [;)] (colloquial)

They just don't make words like they useta! [:D]

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" When My Country takes it's rightful place, amongst the Nations of the World, then and only then, let My Epitaph be written. "


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Patrick,
You have been living to near Univeristy College Dublin with facts like that.[:D]
General Frank LJ Mullins,
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