Napoleonic Wargame Club

The Rhine Tavern

*   NWC   NWC Staff   NWC Rules   NWC (DoR) Records   About Us   Send Email Inquiry to NWC

*   La Grande Armée Quartier Général    La Grande Armée Officer Records    Join La Grande Armée

*   Allied Coalition   Allied Officers   Join Coalition

*   Coalition Armies:   Austro-Prussian-Swedish Army   Anglo Allied Army (AAA)   Imperial Russian Corps

 

Forums:    ACWGC    CCC     Home:    ACWGC    CCC
It is currently Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:54 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Jena Questions
PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:16 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri May 25, 2001 5:00 pm
Posts: 209
Location: TN, USA
While it has been about six or seven years, perhaps more, since I last played this title, there seem to be some discrepancies between the "changes" listed in the updates and the parameter data. I recently reloaded the game from the original disk and downloaded the 1.06 update from the JTS site.

Stacking limits are 1600 for infantry, not 1800 as stated in the 1.03 update. I never liked the 1800 stacking, so not an issue for me. French morale was upgraded in the 1.03 update, with ligne battalions for example going from 'C' to 'B' morale quality. This appears to have reverted back to a 'C' quality. French cavalry has also reverted back to the original morale ratings. Again, this is not an issue for me - and I used to play on the French side - as I thought the change tilted the game toward the French.

I checked to make sure the game is updated to the 1.06 version by using the Help pull down menu with a game file opened.

Did I miss something after all these years away from this title? Nothing in the changes subsequent to the 1.03 update appear to have reverted to the original game's parameters. While I like this, and was never in favor of the changes, does anyone know what may have happened...?

_________________
Feldmarschalleutnant Jeff Freiherr Mathes von Krain
50th (Stein) Infantry Regiment
Dritte Brigade
Austrian Korps


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Jena Questions
PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:08 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:16 pm
Posts: 312
Location: New England, USA
Jeff Mathes wrote:
While it has been about six or seven years, perhaps more, since I last played this title, there seem to be some discrepancies between the "changes" listed in the updates and the parameter data. I recently reloaded the game from the original disk and downloaded the 1.06 update from the JTS site.

Stacking limits are 1600 for infantry, not 1800 as stated in the 1.03 update. I never liked the 1800 stacking, so not an issue for me. French morale was upgraded in the 1.03 update, with ligne battalions for example going from 'C' to 'B' morale quality. This appears to have reverted back to a 'C' quality. French cavalry has also reverted back to the original morale ratings. Again, this is not an issue for me - and I used to play on the French side - as I thought the change tilted the game toward the French.

I checked to make sure the game is updated to the 1.06 version by using the Help pull down menu with a game file opened.

Did I miss something after all these years away from this title? Nothing in the changes subsequent to the 1.03 update appear to have reverted to the original game's parameters. While I like this, and was never in favor of the changes, does anyone know what may have happened...?


stacking is 1800 for my version 1.06

_________________
C.N.Matthews


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Jena Questions
PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:43 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri May 25, 2001 5:00 pm
Posts: 209
Location: TN, USA
I did a test with some French legere, moving two battalions into a hex, one of 790 men and anther of 743 men = 1533. Then detached a skirmisher of 87 men and attempted to move into the hex - exceeds maximum stacking limitation.

As I said previously, I like this change - if that is what it is.

_________________
Feldmarschalleutnant Jeff Freiherr Mathes von Krain
50th (Stein) Infantry Regiment
Dritte Brigade
Austrian Korps


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Jena Questions
PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:56 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed May 23, 2001 10:18 am
Posts: 5743
Location:
Jeff - I just updated my Jena game to 1.06 and I can stack two 800+ man Prussian battalions in the same hex. The stacking limits for the titles I work on remain at 1800 men.

Not sure what happened in your game. Maybe an older PDT file is still left over. Not sure.

When in doubt - reinstall and do the update again.

_________________
Bill Peters - Prussian civilian observer
Scenario Designer for John Tiller Software "Napoleonic Battles" and "Panzer Campigns" series games


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Jena Questions
PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:01 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri May 25, 2001 5:00 pm
Posts: 209
Location: TN, USA
I just commenced a PBEM game, so I wonder how this will play if my opponent has the 1.06 update but with the 1.03 factors, e.g. 1800 infantry stacking, morale changes, etc.

_________________
Feldmarschalleutnant Jeff Freiherr Mathes von Krain
50th (Stein) Infantry Regiment
Dritte Brigade
Austrian Korps


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Jena Questions
PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:34 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:55 am
Posts: 1105
Location: Bouches-de-l’Elbe
Maybe something wasn't overwritten correctly, it's so in PC Moscow 42 latest patch were one has to manually copy a file into the game folder.

First, don't install into the the Program Files folder, use a separate folder for your games, at best not even under the C: partition.
Second, install the patch in a separate folder and manually move its content into the game folder. Allow everything to be written over.

BTW you did apply the correct patch? I mean if you got the HPS version installed you should not use the JTS patch and vise versa.

_________________
Général Christian Hecht
Commandant en Chef de la Grande Armée

Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 29 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
POWERED_BY
Localized by Maël Soucaze © 2010 phpBB.fr