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Who is winning the Napoleonic Wars ?
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Author:  John Corbin [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:23 am ]
Post subject:  Who is winning the Napoleonic Wars ?

OK...

If we treat major and minor victories as just victories, who is ahead in battles won

The French or the Allies ?


General John Corbin
Commandant of Cadets
L'Ecole de Mars
L'Armee du Rhin

Author:  SLudwig [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:23 am ]
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Well John with the Russians at 208 and the Prussians at 130 for a total of 338 that is just two allied armies who's data was available easily.

Do the French have a central location for that??

The AA's and Austrians would have to be counted by "hand" as far as I could tell.

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3. Infanterie-Brigade and Aide-du-Camp
I. Armee Korps
Heer am Niederrhein
[url="http://www.prussianarmy.com"]Preußische Armee[/url]

12-pdr Garde-Battalion
Garde-Artillerie
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Author:  drewstone [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:49 am ]
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As of Jan 05 the French have recorded 1035 major & 194 minor for a total of 1229 victories we also have recorded 1161 defeats and 406 draws for all officers active and inactive.

Maréchal Drew Stone
Comte de Garonne
AdC II Corps, ADN
Cmdr. Division d'Infanterie de la Jeune Garde

Author:  SLudwig [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:02 pm ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by drewstone</i>
<br />As of Jan 05 the French have recorded 1035 major & 194 minor for a total of 1229 victories we also have recorded 1161 defeats and 406 draws for all officers active and inactive.

Maréchal Drew Stone
Comte de Garonne
AdC II Corps, ADN
Cmdr. Division d'Infanterie de la Jeune Garde<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Well Drew maybe I'll look you up someday and help you froggies get number 1036!! [:D][:D]

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[url="http://www.scott-ludwig.com"]<b>Generallieutenant Scott Ludwig</b>[/url]

Kommandeur
3. Infanterie-Brigade and Aide-du-Camp
I. Armee Korps
Heer am Niederrhein
[url="http://www.prussianarmy.com"]Preußische Armee[/url]

12-pdr Garde-Battalion
Garde-Artillerie
[url="http://scott-ludwig.com/NWC/Prussia/Garde.htm"]Preußische Armee Garde-Brigade[/url]

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GroßHerzog von Saxe-Weimar
(Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar)
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Author:  Gary McClellan [ Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:51 pm ]
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We're working on our records at the moment, so I can't begin to guess...

I'd say less than the Prussians [:(] but beyond that, I'm not sure.

Feldmarschall Gary McClellan
1st Jäger Bn
Chief of Staff Imperial Austrian Army

Author:  John Corbin [ Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:32 am ]
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The answer should come as no shock...

The French are wining [:D][:D][:D]

General John Corbin
Chief of Staff
La Grande Armee

Author:  SLudwig [ Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:41 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by John Corbin</i>
<br />The answer should come as no shock...

The French are wining [:D][:D][:D]

General John Corbin
Chief of Staff
La Grande Armee
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By the default fact that there are more of you....[:D]

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[url="http://www.scott-ludwig.com"]<b>Generallieutenant Scott Ludwig</b>[/url]

Kommandeur
3. Infanterie-Brigade and Aide-du-Camp
I. Armee Korps
Heer am Niederrhein
[url="http://www.prussianarmy.com"]Preußische Armee[/url]

12-pdr Garde-Battalion
Garde-Artillerie
[url="http://scott-ludwig.com/NWC/Prussia/Garde.htm"]Preußische Armee Garde-Brigade[/url]

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GroßHerzog von Saxe-Weimar
(Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar)
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Author:  Ed Blackburn [ Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:18 am ]
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I think a better metric would be the ng percentage, not total number of wins of an Army. Thus if we use the numbers provided below by Marechal Stone for the French Army and just forget about the draws we have a total of 2390 games played resulting with a victory or loss decison. Of those,1229 resulted in the French winning a major or a minor victory. So it my computation is correct (and that is the biggest risk in the process [:p]) then the French have a winning percentage of 51.4%. Given the numbers for the other Armies we can determine their winning percentages as well. Of course to prevent a major skewing of the result an Army would have to have played a cetain number of games resulting in a non-draw decision to meaningful. Also I think a certain minimum number of playes would need to have participated. Intuitively I would say something on the order of 500 game decisons from at least 15 players would be the minimums. Now who has the data for the other Armies?
[:D][;)]


Major Ed Blackburn
Commanding 6th Div, II Corps, AAA
3rd Bn / 1st Regiment of Foot Guards

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