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This is a continuation of the Civil War Talk Radio episode reviews I started. In case anyone is interested you can go back and check out my Season 1 notes in a previous post.

To recap:
The following is just for fun. I am currently listening to the Civil War Talk Radio podcasts https://impedimentsofwar.org/ while out jogging and decided to "start at the beginning" of the series and write up some quick episode reviews here for anyone interested. You can also find these episodes wherever you get your podcasts. I will add a new post to this thread each time I complete a podcast. Feel free to add comments if you have any about the episodes or the points raised in them. I'm also going to break the threads up by seasons so the thread isn't too long.

Season 2 List of Episodes worth listening to... so far...
Episode 2.04: Thomas Desjardin
Episode 2.06: Kenneth Noe
Episode 2.09: Gary Gallagher

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EPISODE 2.01 -
August 26, 2005

Right Makes Might
Guest: Harold Holzer

Listen to Harold Holzer, author of the award-winning Lincoln At Cooper Union: The Speech that Made Abraham Lincoln President analyze this long neglected but critical oratory.


Blake's Review:
I was looking forward to this conversation based on the fame of Lincoln's Cooper Union speech. Unfortunately, the interview just seemed to never touch all that much on the speech despite spending a good 30 minutes on the topic. Weird, I know. I learned about Lincoln's speechwriting, how he practiced speeches, how he traveled to New York to make the speech, what he did there, and so on and so on. But it felt like a lot of who, what, where, and when stuff but not a lot of "why" he was there.

I guess they did cover that a little. He went there to introduce himself to the eastern Republicans who doubted a westerner could capture the New England states in 1860. Having a westerner like Lincoln running on the Republican ticket was important as he might win the critical Midwest states as well as the stalwart Republican states in the east. Lincoln's success in winning over influential eastern backers became a key ingredient to his eventual success in 1860.

What did he say at Cooper Union? They never really covered that either. I did learn that the speech was written out by Lincoln and that he later gave the speech to a newspaper publisher who replicated it with Lincoln editing it the whole time. As they set the pages for the printing press (amazingly enough the same night as the speech - Lincoln did not sleep apparently) the pages were allowed to fall to the ground where they were likely swept up and thrown away or burned the next day. So while we do have Lincoln's authorized reproduction of his speech, the original is lost.

The conversation did drift, as do all Lincoln chats from 2004 - 2005, to the topic of Lincoln's sexuality. Holzer's opinion? "I don't think it is character assassination, I think it comes out of this sense that people have had for generations that Lincoln belongs to everybody and everybody can identify with Lincoln. In fact, the people who have advanced this theory are gay and are scholars of gay history." Holzer goes on to talk about the authors of the book on Lincoln's homosexuality and how they reportedly found lost love letters between Lincoln and Joshua Speed. "He (one of the authors) later admitted to me in a phone call that he made it up.... He said it was just for 'consciousness raising' and wasn't real. He said he wanted to get people to think that it was possible." Holzer is ready to put this topic to rest (as most people asked by Gerry about this are).

Overall, just an average interview with a few interesting tidbits here and there.

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EPISODE 2.02 -
September 02, 2005

Who Would Not be a Soldier?
Guest: Mark Dunkelman

Mark H. Dunkelman has spent a lifetime researching the story of the 154th New York Volunteer Infantry Regiment. It's a fascinating story, stretching from Chancellorsville to Chattanooga to the March to the Sea. In Brothers One and All: Esprit de Corps in a Civil War Regiment, Dunkelman goes beyond antiquarian detail-mongering to show how the 154th NY became the world in which its members lived, and sometimes died, shedding new light on the importance of the regiment as a community.


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This interview mainly revolves around the author's personal history as a descendent of a soldier from the 154th New York and how he got interested in writing about and researching the unit. They discuss Dunkelman's views on the unit and the unit's history during the Civil War as a member of the 11th Corps and later of the 20th Corps. Overall, while not a excellent interview, it did keep me listening to the end as Dunkelman does bring up some interesting points about Civil War regiments and how "espirt de corps" is different from unit "morale".

Arguably the most amusing part of the interview was when Dunkelman discusses the origins of the phrase, "Who would not be a soldier?" He found that the members of the 154th New York used this heavily sarcastic phrase (sarcasm not yet becoming a mainstream form of comedy in America in the 19th Century) whenever something bad happened. Therefore, if you wake up covered in snow, "who would not be a soldier?" they would say. Or if they are wounded, lost, tired, hungry, or simply disgruntled, "who would not be a soldier?" Probably a feeling and phrase which can cut across all generations and nationalities.

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EPISODE 2.03 -
September 09, 2005

The Last Port
Guest: Chris Fonvielle, Jr

Did the blockade make a difference? Why did Union forces spend so much effort to take Wilmington, N.C., in the final year of the war? Wilmington native and UNC-Wilmington professor Chris Fonvielle, author of The Wilmington Campaign: Last Rays of Departing Hope, analyzes the important and fascinating events that marked the war in North Carolina in 1864-65.


Blake's Review:
The interview begins twenty minutes late due to some tech issues and so they have a shotened amount of time to dicsuss the topic. It's ironic because they begin discussing how events on the seaboard always seem to be overlooked and never given the respect they deserve. Neither noticed the irony of the tech issues which gave them less time than a normal show.

Was the blockade a success? They talk about the fact that the Confederacy was supplied largely from overseas to the tune of perhaps 50% of their war material. It did disrupt their economy and did, by 1865, manage to cut-off all their major ports. But the Confederacy never lost a battle due to the lack of supplies and it took so long for the blockade to close all the ports that the Union could have lost the war waiting for it to happen. The blockade did force the Confederacy to defend their extremely long coast and divert men and supplies to far-flung forts which might otherwise have been in Virginia or Tennessee. The Confederacy also spent a lot of time, material, and money, to build a navy of their own to try and break the blockade.

Overall, just an average interview. The talked about Wilmington and why it was an important fortress by 1864 and 1865. The guest had some good stories from the bombardment, such as Butler's attempt to pack a dummy warship with tons of explosives and beach it close to the fort to attempt to blast a hole in it (spoiler - bad idea). They also talked about earth fortifications taking over masonry fortifications during the war. At Wilmington, the Union fired a very large number of shells which had zero effect on the fortifications as the Confederates simply went out each night and shoveled the sand back into place.

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EPISODE 2.04 -
September 23, 2005

One, Two, Many Gettysburgs
Guest: Thomas Desjardin

Living in Gettysburg, historian Thomas Desjardin discovered that many of the most well-known stories of the battle are badly distorted versions of the original events. In These Honored Dead: How the Story of Gettysburg Shaped American Memory Desjardin describes how the postwar efforts of John Bachelder, Dan Sickles, and others helped to create the modern view of what happened at the battle. He raises the disturbing question: is it possible ever to know what really happened in the past?


Blake's Review:
This was the first really interesting interview of Season Two. Gerry and Desjardin have a very interesting chat about Gettysburg history and why we remember it as we do - and why we are often wrong.

The show begins with Desjardin discussing his interest in Joshua Chamberlain and how his legacy really took off after the release of Ken Burns documentary, coupled with the surge in popularity of The Killer Angels and the release of the movie Gettysburg.

The conversation then turns to Desjardin's new book, These Honored Dead, in which "you argue that history is not a fixed and static collection of facts." Desjardin talks about being a Gettysburg native and tour guide and how "you quickly discover that what you think you know about the battlefield is mostly not true, and there are so many myths and legends and so forth."

The Shoe Factory? Wasn't Heth looking for shoes?

There was no shoe factory in Gettysburg. Desjardin states the obvious that if there were shoes that Early's men would have already captured them when he went through the town on the 28th.

So where does that myth come from? Mostly from Harry Heth who, long after the battle, wrote about his divisions lack of supplies (especially shoes he puts in parenthesis in his writing) as the reason for moving on Gettysburg. Shelby Foote and other historians continued to talk about the shoe factory in Gettysburg despite there not being one. Ken Burns also puts the shoe factory myth into his documentary adding to the legend of the factory.

They then talk about Little Round Top and how it has become the most famous part of the battlefield where the battle, and maybe the war, was either won or lost by the actions of Chamberlain. Is that fair? And why is Little Round Top so popular now?

Desjardin says, not jokingly, that LRT is more popular than nearly anywhere else at Gettysburg because it has good parking and a great view. It's also convenient that Gettysburg is near so many eastern cities and is easy to access for millions of people (unlike Shiloh which had, arguably, more influence on the outcome of the overall war than Gettysburg did).

So why does LRT endure? "There were a couple of things that appeal now to our concept of that sort of John Wayne charge or our 'just in the nic of time' kinds of things." They discuss the LRT story and then return to the myths of the fighting. The Federals were not outnumbered by 3, 4 or 5 times by the Confederates and were actually similar in numbers to the Rebs. Did the 20th Maine charge down the hill with Chamberlain leading and capture hundreds of men? Not really. "It just sort of happens. Chamberlain... spent his whole life saying, 'I didn't order a charge.' He said if I had, no one would have heard me."

The myth also lives on with LRT because people think if Lee's army takes the position that they can turn Meade's flank and lay a devastating fire on the Union army causing them to retreat. "When you stand on the surfact (of LRT), you have a great view, but its of the Confederate lines, not the Union lines. So that if the Confederates had gotten to the top of the hill, they would have been able to combard their own troops. But to turn and fire up the long, skinny shape of the hill toward the Union army would have been almost impossible." Not to mention that the Confederates had no massive amount of guns to move up LRT even if the 20th Maine retreats.

The whole interview is very interesting and it's one of the best so far. Highly recommended!

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You would imagine that shoe factory legend would have been dispelled sooner but even I thought there was a shoe factory until now. Shows what I know.

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EPISODE 2.05 -
September 30, 2005

History in 32 Pages
Guest: Karen Winnick

As an artistic format, the 32-page picture book looks simple, but using it to bring history to children is a challenge. Karen B. Winnick, author of Mr. Lincoln's Whiskers and Cassie's Sweet Berry Pie, both set in the Civil War era, describes how she uses words and illustrations to communicate important truths in historical settings.


Blake's Review:
Horrible episode. I couldn't get through five minutes of it. Unless you have an interest in Civil War children's books, or the desire to listen to a woman who sounds like a Kindergarten teacher at story time, you should just skip this one. I tried skipping ahead to see if anything interesting was discussed but after skipping around some I realized it was just a throwaway episode with little real content.

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EPISODE 2.06 -
October 7, 2005

This Grand Havoc of Battle
Guest: Kenneth Noe

Few Civil War battles had more impact, and yet were more quickly forgotten, than Perryville. Kenneth Noe, author of Perryville: This Grand Havoc of Battle, details the campaign and battle, and discusses why its importance faded from view.


Blake's Review:
This was simply a solid and educating interview with the author of one of those books which I've read twice over the years. Perryville remains one of those battles which is overshadowed by other events happening at nearly the same moment around it (Corinth, Antietam, Emancipation) and has often been overlooked by historians. But the battle is an important one with some oddities to it which make it memorable and unique. Who the heck is Charles Gilbert and why is he leading a Corps? How could a battle be fought so close to thousands of Union soldiers, and Buell, and yet not be heard by them? Was the battle just a fight over the last remaining watering holes? It is an enlightening interview to learn more about a battle that a lot of people neglect when studying the war. I highly recommend the book and/or checking out this podcast.

Lastly, the author states in the book, and does so in this interview, that the Chaplin River was basically dried up during the battle from a prolonged drought. Yet, in the Perryville game with WDS, the river is represented as impassible and affects the movements of both armies. At this point it probably is what it is, but a second look at this map by WDS would be interesting.

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EPISODE 2.07 -
October 14, 2005

The Dark Side of the War
Guest: Lonnie Speer

Hostages taken and killed; civilians murdered to terrorize others; military prisoners subject to abuse... not in the 21st century Middle East, but in the United States, 1861-1865. Lonnie Speer, author of Portals to Hell: Military Prisons of the Civil War and War of Vengeance: Act of Retaliation Against Civil War POWs, reveals some harsh realities of the war.


Blake's Review:
I was kind of interested in this topic and was looking forward to it - learning more about POW camps in the Civil War and "what went wrong" with them. But, as sometimes happens, the person being interviewed is simply not a very good speaker and the interview lacked any real momentum or flow. While the subject was an interesting one, the material being discussed fell flat. Often Gerry did more speaking than usual and slipped into his lawyer-mode where he was treating Speer like a witness on the stand trying to get more out of him as the interview progressed. It got pretty painful to listen to by the second segment and I turned it off.

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EPISODE 2.08 -
October 21, 2005

Blogging the Civil War
Guest: Dimitri Rotov

One way that the internet has revolutionized communication is by allowing anyone to publish his or her thoughts to an unlimited audience through a weblog. Dimitri Rogov's blog, Civil War Bookshelf, is a model of provocative commentary on current issues in Civil War history.


Blake's Review:
I was not expecting to enjoy this interview at all. But I was surprised!

Rotov is a self-described "Advanced reader" without any real history credentials. But he got hooked by the Civil War while commuting on the train to work each day (Wall Street) and soon started his own online blog as a way to communicate his feelings and thoughts about the books he was reading to the general public.

Rotov is a character! He isn't thrilled with the mainstream Civil War publishers and doesn't hold back on them for publishing books driven by narratives and popular public history at the expense of well-documented and academic histories with more research and substance. He detests Stephen Sears and James McPherson and he unloads on each. To Rotov, the stufy of the Civil War is often compromised by the desire of the publishing industry to capitalize on the popularity of the war by putting out whatever poorly edited and written books are submitted because Civil War readers will buy anything with a flashy title or which recently had a movie made about it.

Rotov also rallies to the defense of McClellan who he feels gets a beating from modern historians who view him as a poor general and perhaps a traitor for not prosecuting the war more forcefully. But Rotov argues McClellan was a patriot who is misrepresented today by those looking to make him the fool and scapegoat in order to make Grant's eventual rise seem that much more miraculous. Basically, every story needs a fall guy and McClellan plays that for writers like Stephen Sears he argues. The whole McClellan chat is quite amusing.

Really, it is just a fun listen! Gerry gets into it with Rotov in a spirited debate but both are respectful and allow the other to make their points. A highly commendable thing in this day and age.

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EPISODE 2.09 -
October 28, 2005

Causes Lost and Won
Guest: Gary Gallagher

After writing or editing more than thirty books on the war, University of Virginia history professor Gary W. Gallagher has become one of the leading scholars in the field. Hear his views on why the South lost, how battlefields should be interpreted, and other controversial topics.


Blake's Review:
A real icon in Civil War history joins Gerry for this solid episode. They begin with the usual question about how Gary got interested in the Civil War. Not surprisingly, it was Bruce Catton's books which sparked his interest around the Centennial (seems like the same answer for many guests!). They discuss Gary's education and how he studied to become a Civil War professor but had to wait a number of years to finally find a position at a university. They close the intro talking about the popularity of the Civil War and whether or not that popularity is waning, staying the same, or growing.

Gary is then asked, why did the North win the war?

Gary answers that the northern advantage in manpower and industrial capacity were necessary ingredients but that they north also had to have "resolute political and military leadership that would see that those advantages were applied in a relentless fashion in the end and would... convince the Confederate people to give up before the Northern population decided that the was war wasn't worth it." Gary goes on to say that, "All the Confederacy had to do was get a tie to win. All it had to do was convince the people of the United States that it was costing too many lives and too much money." Gary feels that the war could have gone either way but that the northern population was able to sustain the war effort longer and were able to win the war.

Did the South lack nationalism then?

Gary does not believe so and refutes writers, like David Williams, who argues otherwise. "Certainly no other white segment of American society has ever sacrificed nearly as much as the Confederates did. They lost a quarter of their military aged men which is a pretty high standard for the United States." The host then asks Gary about why the South didn't take to the mountains in 1865 as Jeff Davis wished them to and fight a guerilla war. In the American Revolution, Gary explains, partisan fighters like Marion and Sumter "are not the main military effort. I think that guerilla war analogy is really driven by a post-Vietnam reading of what the Civil War was about." Gary explains that there was no way the slave-holding south could have maintained both a guerilla war and still maintained their control over their slaves, 3 1/2 million of them, and expect to come out the other side of the conflict with their society still intact.

In the second segment, they discuss the rise of the Lost Cause in the South and how the message of the Lost Cause became the most prominent interpretation of the war across America - still today. Gary lays out the Lost Cause as celebrating the Confederate soldiers for fighting a good fight against overwhelming odds despite knowing they would lose against the endless northern hordes. The Lost Causers made the war about constitutional principles over all else. "If you spin it that way, then there is not so much shame in losing the war. There you have a version of the war that shows you fighting the good fight and very hard and in end losing to these limitless northern numbers orchestrated by Grant - who is not a great general but just a guy who understands on some level that he can just pile in the men and eventually he will win." The Lost Cause advocates, "succeeded beyond their imagining." Gary states these Lost Cause writers hoped to persuade their descendents that they fought a noble war, and to also maybe influence foreign readers and observers, "but in the end, their interpretation became the national interpretation in some ways." Gary talks about the speeches by Woodrow Wilson and FDR at Gettysburg for the major reunions and how "neither one of them mentioned emancipation or African-Americans." Gary states that the war was sanitized by the Lost Cause writers and made a war of white men fighting for noble reasons.

This is a great interview from start to finish! Each segment has something interesting and memorable and it is highly recommended!

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