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Author:  John Ferry [ Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fair Fights & Balanced Games
Has anyone ever read about the questionable competence or even loyalty of the fellow who was supposed to keep Lee's trains running from Richmond up to Fredericksburg? His name escapes me at the moment, but I'll come up with it. No, I am not going to Google it. Google is causing us to lose our ability to ponder. :(
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John Ferry
LTC 2/20th Corps
Author:  John Ferry [ Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Logistics
I had to bring this up on my old computer and transfer it over. Of course these figures only apply to the longer scenarios, and only the Campaign Scenario in full. Thanks to Ken Miller for providing it to me many years ago. Perhaps you have all seen it, but I thought it would fit into our current discussion:

This is a workup on supply for the contending armies in the Overland Campaign. It is based on the formula that Ken Miller put forward. Each wagon generally carries 250 points.
Union
2nd Corps
Barlow 8,000 men 750 points 3 wagons
Gibbon 6,700 men 750 points 3 wagons
Birney 7,100 men 750 points 3 wagons
Mott 5,000 men 500 points 2 wagons
Art'y Trains 50 points 1 wagon
Corps Trains 75% of 28,000 men 2,000 points 8 wagons
5th Corps
Griffin 8,800 men 750 points 3 wagons
Robinson 5,300 men 500 points 2 wagons
Crawford 3,500 men 500 points 2 wagons
Wadsworth 6,900 men 750 points 3 wagons
Art'y Trains 50 points 1 wagon
Corps Trains 75% of 26,000 men 2,000 points 8 wagons
6th Corps
Wright 6,600 men 750 points 3 wagons
Getty 9,000 men 1000 points 4 wagons
Ricketts 5,400 men 500 points 2 wagons
Art'y Trains 50 points 1 wagon
Corps Trains 75% of 23,000 men 1,750 points 7 wagons
9th Corps
Stevenson 5,000 men 500 points 2 wagons
Potter 5,000 men 500 points 2 wagons
Willcox 5,000 men 500 points 2 wagons
Ferrero 5,000 men 500 points 2 wagons
Corps Trains 75% of 20,000 men 1500 points 6 wagons
Cavalry Corps
Torbert 6,100 men 250 points 1 wagon
Gregg 5,000 men 250 points 1 wagon
Wilson 3,000 men 250 points 1 wagon
Corps Trains 50% of 14,000 men 750 points 3 wagons
Army trains 1/3 of corps-- 2,750 points 11 wagons
Confederate
1st Corps
Kershaw 4,300 men 500 points 2 wagons
Field 4,700 men 500 points 2 wagons
Art'y Trains 50 points 1 wagon
Corps Trains 75% of 10,000 men 750 points 3 wagons
2nd Corps
Early 5,000 men 500 points 2 wagons
Johnson 5,600 men 500 points 2 wagons
Rodes 7,000 men 750 points 3 wagons
Art'y Trains 50 points 1 wagon
Corps Trains 75% of 19,000 men 1500 points 6 wagons
3rd Corps
Anderson 6,400 men 750 points 3 wagons
Heth 7,000 men 750 points 3 wagons
Wilcox 6,000 men 500 points 2 wagons
Art'y Trains 50 points 1 wagon
Corps trains 75% of 20,000 men 1500 points 6 wagons
Cavalry Corps
Hampton 3000 men 250 points 1 wagon
Fitz Lee 3,000 men 250 points 1 wagon
W H F Lee 3,000 men 250 points 1 wagon
Corps Trains 50% of 10,000 men 500 points 2 wagons
Army Trains 1/3 of corps-- 1500 points 6 wagons
Author:  krmiller_usa [ Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fair Fights & Balanced Games
Actually I merely sent John a copy of something Robert Frost put out to explain how he calculated small arms ammo for his large scenarios. I used it on several scenarios and found it works fairly well. Units can run out of ammo but they generally have enough to fight an extended 3-4 day battle if they can get resupplied from corps or army.

Basically Infantry Divisions get enough ammo to resupply everyone once, 4500 men = 450 supply. Cavalry gets half that value. Wagons are generally limited to a maximum of 250 supplies per unit.

Corps/Wing supply is determined by adding the capacity of all wagons for units under its command and multiplying by 75%, thus the division above would add 338 supplies to the corps level (450x0.75). This is divided into a number of wagons equal at least the number of divisions in the corps.

Army supply equals the sum of all corps supply plus that of any independent unit reporting directly at army level. This figure is multiplied by 1/3. So assuming the corps above had 3 equal divisions it would add 338 supplies (3x338/3) divided into 3 wagons of 112 each. Once again the number of wagons is at least 1 per corps.

As Confederate forces could not afford to be as profligate with ammo as their Union counterparts due to chronic shortages, the ratios applied above are modified for the CSA as follows:

Divisional calculations are the same for both armies

Corps supply for the CSA uses a factor of 52.65% compared with the Union 75%

Army supply is calculated the same for both armies, but the CSA has a lower base due to the corps factor

I still have the original file Robert sent out , if anyone is interested in a copy you can contact me.
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