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Author:  D. Groce [ Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:53 am ]
Post subject:  Supply wagons
As we can spike guns, how hard would it be to add the ability to burn supply wagons? Sometimes I know I can't save a wagon or it is just more trouble than it is worth to protect it or move it along.

MG D. Groce
AoP
V Corps
2nd Division
"Into the breach"
Author:  Ernie Sands [ Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:16 am ]
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I just throw some matches on the monitor and POOF, they go away. (Some gasoline or lighter fluid does help.)

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Author:  Al Amos [ Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:23 pm ]
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You can always shoot at your own wagons to make them go away.

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Author:  Digglyda [ Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:45 am ]
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Are there any/many documented cases of Divisional/Corps/Army supply trains actually being destroyed by their own side to prevent capture, during the ACW?

The supply wagons we have in the game are a very abstract representation of the actual supply system that would have been involved. I can imagine times when static supply dumps were destroyed by a retreating side, but surely even that is rare. I have a game going on at the moment in which I have a supply wagon that I'd like to get rid of! but how would I go about it? disable the wagons themselves, slaughter the draught animals, destroy the ammunition?

Colonel Jim Wilkes.
2nd Brigade, Cavalry Division, XX Corps.
AoC. U.S.A.
Author:  mihalik [ Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:15 am ]
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From what I have read wagons were usually destroyed by setting them on fire. After Brice's Crossroads, when Forrest came upon some burning wagons, he would say to his men, "Put those fires out. Why are you letting the Yankees burn my wagons?" probably not ammo wagons, I hope. Also when Wheeler captured the wagon train in the Sequatchie Valley he burned it and killed the animals because he couldn't take it with him. But other times, such as Mansfield and in the case of Longstreet's ammo train before Antietam, there wasn't time to destroy wagons. In the Wagoners' Fight at Williamsport during the retreat from Gettysburg, the wagon drivers actually helped repel the Union cavalry, something our wagon drivers in the game seem incapable of.

I don't know if Al was serious about shooting your own wagons, but that probably works as well as any solution, even though the mechanics aren't exactly historical.

MG Mike Mihalik
1/III/AoMiss/CSA
Author:  ALynn [ Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:44 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Digglyda</i>
<br />Are there any/many documented cases of Divisional/Corps/Army supply trains actually being destroyed by their own side to prevent capture, during the ACW?

The supply wagons we have in the game are a very abstract representation of the actual supply system that would have been involved. I can imagine times when static supply dumps were destroyed by a retreating side, but surely even that is rare. I have a game going on at the moment in which I have a supply wagon that I'd like to get rid of! but how would I go about it? disable the wagons themselves, slaughter the draught animals, destroy the ammunition?

Colonel Jim Wilkes.
2nd Brigade, Cavalry Division, XX Corps.
AoC. U.S.A.
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Banks destroyed some wagons prior to 2nd Winchester during his retreat after Jackson had turned his flank at Stasburg after the battle of Front Royal.

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Lt. Gen. Alan Lynn
CSA Chief of Staff
3rd Bgde, 3rd Cav Div, II Corps, AoA

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