Well welcome to both of you!!
I've got a quote from an old song that may help both of you out in this journey. It's from an old Kenny Roger's song and I figure most people would know it and enjoy it in this club:
<b>"You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run. You never count your money when your sittin' at the table, there will be time to count it when the dealin's done."</b>
Or in other terms, know when to hold your lines and goals, know when the game is lost, know when to slowly withdraw from a problem, know when to get out quick from it. Never think you've got a sure victory until the game is done.
I found this to be very helpful...amongst other tings.
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