Napoleonic Wargame Club (NWC)

Monsieur I hope that your Prussi E troops don't beat our AA+Old Guard like the HP games do !!!!

Oh, my dear Colonel Dumas, everyone knows that the Anglo-Allied E Morale Troops are far beyond deadly, particularly those belonging to my beloved Hanoverian Brigade.

Would it be possible to update the MOE rules as some of them are not necessary anymore since the game doesn't allow leaders & supply to take victory hex, square can't be formed in obstructed terrain etc.

Anyway you can count me in. I am never good in a tournament but it's for fun!!

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Général David Guegan

3ème Régiment de Grenadiers - Bataillon d'élite du 3ème Légère
2ème Brigade
Grenadiers de la Réserve
Réserve
La Grande Armée
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"From the sublime to the ridiculous is but a step."
Napoléon Bonaparte

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Excellent, David! I am very glad that you will play for fun. That is what I hope for all participants. We also really do need some more French officers at the moment.

I have updated the Tournament webpage, but it has not yet been posted to the website. I think everyone will like this beta version much better as a lot of information has been added. The two things I have yet to do are to tweak the MOE4 rules and insert the graphics for the tounament ribbon and medals into the tournament webpage so that the players can see the rewards of victory for which they are playing. I sent an email to Sir Muddy less than an hour ago to discuss any modifications needed to the MOE4 rules. Colin has also sent a suggestion to me about a week ago. When you get a moment, I would love it if you could send me some bullet points on the MOE4 rules that you think need revision. Once I incorporate all comments, I guess I could retitle it to MOE5 so that others can build upon it in the future if they like.

I have also gone as far as I can on the Round 1 Pairings page and written a spreadsheet that ranks and sorts the officers to ensure, as much as possible anyway, that players will compete against opponents of similar skill. I just need the final list of players and I will finish the work that is already well under way.

I apologize to all that we could not start play immediately, but there is a lot of front end work that needs to be done and I was not prepared to setup a tournament. This is my first one and I am winging it as best I can. I am pleased with the way things are coming together though and we are going to do everything we can to make this fun for everyone. We currently have fifty players committed to the tournament which is so much more than I ever imagined. It is, however, a very good thing in my view and I appreciate every single one of you, even though you are creating more work for me and some other officers who are generously donating their time to this cause.

We start in about a week now, so everyone needs to make sure their swords have been sharpened, their muskets cleaned, and their horses well treated and fit for duty. Everyone should probably polish their boots and wash their uniforms as well, except for Sir Muddy of course. We will accept him just the way he is.

President Colonel Jones,
<Snaps a Salute>

I thank you and all those helping to make this tournament happen. I am sure it is a lot of work to put such a thing together and make it work properly. I am certain it will be most enjoyable for all who participate. I know I wouldn't want to miss out on all the fun, I trust you have me included, if not please add me. I hope you and all that made it happen have as much fun playing in it as all the hard work and effort you put into it.

I am curious about some MOE rules. Perhaps someone can clarify this for me.

The rule states:
Miscellaneous #3. Squares are not allowed to be formed in (or move into) covered terrain. If the cavalry can't get to you why form square?

The other rule states:
C-Cavalry C.1 Cavalry may not charge into covered terrain (villages, towns, woods, marshes, chateaux, ect.). They may however continue a charge-melee into one hex of covered terrain but the first melee must have occurred against a non-covered terrain hex. Cavalry may charge across hedges, embankments and streams.

The problem seems to be that the cavalry CAN charge/melee into covered terrain, it's just that the first hex can not be covered terrain. That seems like a suffcient reason to form square in a covered terrain hex.

Also, doesn't forming square in covered terrain keep your enemy from obtaining a flank/infilade shot? I would think that to be a good tactic for troops that are caught behind enemy lines or guarding an isolated victory objective.

Just a few thoughts.

Regards,

Although in different armies, the Hanoverian Lt. Colonel returns the salute to this polite, young French Lieutenant who now stands before him.

First, let me start by saying that I do intend to update the MOE 4 rules for this tournament, but I do not expect there to be any really major revisions. I have updated the tournament webpage, but I don’t think it has yet been posted to the server. The revised version contains many details that were not available when the initial version was posted. We needed to get something in place to start taking names for tournament participation. I will post yet another revised webpage which will include any modifications to the MOE 4 rules as well as the tournament player pairings for Round 1.

Regarding your question of squares, to my knowledge, squares were always formed in the open as far as I know. The square is a solid formation, but it very much relies on its integrity to be effective. Enemy cavalry would circle a square, looking for any opportunity to exploit a weakness. If they could find or create one, they would mercilessly attack that point in the hope of creating a breach. This was not often accomplished, but in the event that it did happen, and the integrity of the square was compromised, the infantry in the area would suffer horribly as a result. My thinking is that covered terrain might actually compound the problems associated with maintaining the integrity of a square formation and could possibly provide a better opportunity for cavalry to discover a fatal breach. In any case, the main issue in the game is the fact that the cavalry will not receive the melee multiplier if they attack infantry in covered terrain, although I do concede that they could get an enfilade bonus. Personally, if I am not going to gain the multiplier for cavalry charging infantry, you will not see me hurl my invaluable horsemen at my opponent in a situation where I am bound to lose.

Some of our more venerable players may wish to comment in this regard also, and yes I do have you registered for the tournament. I will send an email of registry confirmation to all officers that have expressed their interest to play this week, probably even tonight. I need to update my Contacts information first to be certain that no officers are overlooked.

President Colonel Jones,

Sir, in spite of my dislike for that Hanoverian uniform, I saluted you for all your hard work and efforts as our club President. I do not know where you find the time and patience for it all. You must truely have a deep love for the NWC as do many of our officers on both sides of the war.

I thank you for your explanation of the rules in question. I am not much of a historian and had not thought about in that light. I was merely considering it from a "gamer" point of view.

Regards,

Monsieur one thing that I can't understand an that is why Cav in the same hex with Art can't counter-charge a unit attacking that hex since the game engine doesn't allow counter charging Art is always lost????

Lieutenant Wencz, thank you for such fine words on my behalf, but I am not certain that I have truly earned them. You see, I actually won the Presidency of this club from Marechal Corbin in a poker match. For every hand he lost, he had to down a shot of the Jagermeister of which I am so fond. For every hand I lost, I had to down a glass of fragrant, but admittedly not very powerful, French wine. Though the good Marechal won three hands to my two, the Jager quickly proved too much for his delicate, French constitution. When the cards fell from his grasp, and he slumped under the table to sleep off his drunken stupor, the Presidency was declared to be mine. Since we agreed before the match that we would only play again after one year's time, I am honorably bound to serve in this role for another ten months. I do promise to try to do my very best in the limited time available.

Now, regarding your dislike of my fine, Hanoverian coat, well, I honestly must say I cannot understand your position. I personally have a great fondness for the uniforms of France, with a particular love for those worn by the Mamelukes of the Vieille Garde. They are quite colorful to be sure and their garish nature makes them stand out against even the most obscure background, thereby rendering them to be much easier targets to distinguish, and hit, by a skilled, Hanoverian marksman such as myself.

Ah yes the Jägermeister! How we always get France to surrender vast territories to us after a night of drinking and cards...

But be careful of that Hanoverian Feldjäger Corps, they can be very deadly....

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Generalfeldmarschall Scott Kronprinz "Vorwärts" Ludwig von Preußen
Kommandeur des Königlich-Preußischen Armee-Korps
Chief of Staff (CoS) of the Allied Coalition
Allied Coalition Webmaster & Club Website Support

Am wondering why more players don't play % of casualties the tournament should be that and not victory points!

Essentially that is what the tournament will be, my dear Colonel. The points gained for objectives are miniscule at best. It will be the slayer of armies that will win the day.

What kind of % are we talking????

There is no %. The tournament will be decided on Victory Points, but because the objective values are extremely low, the player that kills more VPs of his opponent's forces will certainly win Round 1 of the tournament. The outcome will be determined by relative casualties far more than any other consideration.

I am not sure if I can finish in 60 days, since I am moving in the upcoming future. I can probably contrive to be _finished_ in 60 days however, so count me in!!