Gentlemen
When a cavalry commences a charge from the hex adjacent to the unit to be charged does it get a charge bonus, if so why
I assume even light horse would take a reasonable amount of distance and time to get up to charge momentum.
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| Author: | Jim Hall [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cavalry bonus on charging |
Gentlemen When a cavalry commences a charge from the hex adjacent to the unit to be charged does it get a charge bonus, if so why I assume even light horse would take a reasonable amount of distance and time to get up to charge momentum. |
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| Author: | Ed Blackburn [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
Jim, This what the user guide says: Cavalry Charge Rules Certain melees are considered to be Cavalry Charges. When this occurs, the attacking strength of eligible Cavalry is increased by a factor which is by default 3. The specific factor used is determined by Parameter Data. For a Cavalry Charge to occur, the following rules must hold: • The attacking Cavalry units must have moved using the Cavalry Charge procedure. To me that reads they have to have moved at least one hex after they charge. I don't think adjacent meets that criteria. |
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| Author: | Jim Hall [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
Thanks Ed Interesting as if you chose to charge in the adjacent hex starting position the first melee may not have an advantage but the 2nd and 3rd do so its effectively a two thirds charge 
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| Author: | MCJones1810 [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
Ed is exactly correct. There is no charge bonus if you attack an adjacent unit; full charge bonus if you have moved a hex before attacking (the bonus varies from x3 to x5 depending on the game title being played); and the charge bonus and disorder penalty if this is your second melee, even if your first melee occurred against an adjacent unit (ex. x5 divided by 3). The moral of the story: If you are going to charge, make certain that you can move at least one hex before engaging in melee. P.S. I wrote this in English so the Frenchies could not read it. Very clever, eh? |
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| Author: | David Guegan [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
MCJones1810 wrote: P.S. I wrote this in English so the Frenchies could not read it. Very clever, eh? Comment? Je ne comprends pas!!!! 
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| Author: | MCJones1810 [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
See, I told you the Frenchies would not understand! No doubt that General Guegan is currently galloping the roads, clutching his tattered copy of my last dispatch, and desperately trying to have it interpreted before his Emperor inquires about the contents. Bonne chance, mon adversaire francais talentueux. |
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| Author: | Jeff Bardon [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
Ah, but Herr Jones, do not forget the skirmisher corollary. If you "charge" an adjacent skirmisher in a building, the melee will not disorder the cavalry, who are then free to inflict misery upon any hapless units they find in clear terrain behind said building, using the full effect of the 5X charge multiplier. |
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| Author: | MCJones1810 [ Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
Certainly true, Marechal Bardon. There are exceptions to every rule. One must never cease to think, lest an officer of your immense talent should instantaneously lay waste to an otherwise formidable defense. |
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| Author: | Jim Hall [ Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
Hi Jeff For "Building" do I read "Village" as I always thought that "Gentlemen" didn't initiate a charge into covered terrain. Of course it only applies to "Gentlemen" which automatically excludes all Frenchies
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| Author: | Jeff Bardon [ Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
Hi Jim, No, single building. Villages, woods, orchards, etc. will disorder the cav, so it is especially handy for those times when you have a whole company of Coldstream guards hiding in an outhouse. Cheers! |
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| Author: | Jim Hall [ Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
Thanks for that Jeff It will come in handy for frogs with moustaches  .
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| Author: | MCJones1810 [ Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
Jeff Bardon wrote: No, single building. Villages, woods, orchards, etc. will disorder the cav, so it is especially handy for those times when you have a whole company of Coldstream guards hiding in an outhouse. Good one, Jeff. Everyone knows that protecting one's latrines is critical to the welfare of one's army.
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| Author: | nelmsm [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
Well if it wasn't for all that captured French cuisine the importance of outhouses would be greatly reduced. |
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| Author: | Ed Blackburn [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
Now let's see do we pitch camp upstream or downstream from those outhouses?  Never can keep that straight.
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| Author: | MCJones1810 [ Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cavalry bonus on charging |
That would be upstream from the crapper, sir.  I think you may be confusing this with the fact that we approach the French from downwind. This makes them quite easy to detect due to their infernal perfume. 
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