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| Author: | Bill Peters [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Battle of Jena-Auerstadt |
Today is the anniversary of the Battles of Jena and Auerstadt. The drink are on the French of course!  It is also the anniversary of the Battle of Liebertwolkwitz where Murat used up a lot of good horses for an attack that did not accomplish much. We Allies can always hope that there are many Murats on the French side of the club! 
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| Author: | John Corbin [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battle of Jena-Auerstadt |
Belly up to the bar boys... My purse is wide open 
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| Author: | Mark Oakford [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battle of Jena-Auerstadt |
Can't have John paying for all of the drinks! 
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| Author: | Bill Peters [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battle of Jena-Auerstadt |
I was thinking about the accomplishments of Marechal Davout and thought why not: The Iron Marshall Quadragame - In order from 1805: 1805 - Davout's attack at Austerlitz 1806 - Auerstaedt 1807 - Davoud's attack at Eylau 1809 - Davout at Eckmuhl (same map would offer several scenarios) What is funny .. I could actually do this using the Austerlitz game. Put in a small map of the area of the Eylau battlefield where Davout fought (without compromising any title on Eylau) as well as the Auerstadt map from Jena (again just a portion) along with a portion of the Eckmuhl map from Eckmuhl. But it would be a great board game design to pursue.  A toast to Marechal Davout, the greatest subordinate field officer/organizer of the Napoleonic Wars!
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| Author: | Christian Hecht [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battle of Jena-Auerstadt |
| Author: | Ernie Sands [ Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battle of Jena-Auerstadt |
Davout, unlike Ney, never swore allegiance to the Bourbons and never plotted to capture Napoleon and return him to Elba. So, Davout was a more honorable and loyal Marshall. |
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| Author: | Bill Peters [ Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battle of Jena-Auerstadt |
I think loyalty to France came first to be honest. I would have NOT followed Napoleon in 1815. In 1814 the Austrians were making peace overtones to Napoleon that were PERFECTLY acceptable. The Austrians didn't want to see the Russians and Prussians carve up Europe. Napoleon was blind by 1813 to the realities of what was going on. So in the end you have to stay loyal to your country and not an individual. While what Marmont did was not very loyal to Napoleon the French people had already suffered too much. He was loyal to France and frankly that was the right move. Anyone that swore alegiance to Napoleon in 1815 was an idiot. If he could have had Austria as an ally by then maybe he could have had some clout to instigate an overthrow of the Bourbons. Had Napoleon taken the offer from Austria in 1813 it would be interesting to see where France would be today. Napoleon should have used some common sense, rebuilt France for his son, and had him rule when he passed on. I don't see the Bourbons getting power again under a non-aggressive France. |
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| Author: | David Guegan [ Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battle of Jena-Auerstadt |
| Author: | Francisco Palomo [ Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battle of Jena-Auerstadt |
Hubris is a harsh mistress and Napoleon was enmeshed in her coils as early as 1808 when he foolishly converted the long standing Spanish alliance into the Spanish Ulcer. He managed to win many more victories after 1808, but he never recovered his previous, deft diplomatic touch or the ability to objectively assess risk vs. gain. Launching the 1812 Campaign, his refusal to negotiate a peace in 1813, etc. all flowed from his hubris. Yes, he might have won the 1812 Campaign, or even the Battle of Leipzig, but, like a gambler that doesn't know when to walk away, he probably would have blundered into another debacle sooner rather than later. Paco |
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| Author: | David Guegan [ Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Battle of Jena-Auerstadt |
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