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| Author: | Bill Peters [ Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Napoleon in Egypt - Notes on Terrain |
I noted a comment left by Mike Davies on the WDS blog announcement for the 4.03 updates recently put out that a Napoleon in Egypt game would be nice. I also add that really to make the game "robust" you need to more or less include the Turkish Campaigns of the Napoleonic Wars. As the battles were not huge in numbers it makes more sense to feature the game more or less in that light. The Egyptian Campaign really did not have a lot of battles. Battle of the Pyramids, Siege at Acre, Alexandria, etc. And all small affairs. Its a "niche title" for sure. I think if you added in the other campaigns, especially vs. the Russians, there would be more interest. A reminder as to why I didn't add those battles into Marnego: no Sand terrain. I wish we had Sand terrain for the Battle of Bergen (RBR). For that battle I had to use an alternate choice and it really doesn't do it justice. Sand would not Disorder upon entering like Broken does. Terribly slow, yes! There is an area of dunes in Noord Holland that need that kind of terrain. As John Tiller just never had the time to add it in well maybe its something that could be added in via a new update. But just some of my thoughts on the Egyptian game. I know that many would like to see a full title on Egypt, or just to have the battles included, but until Sand is a terrain type (and vineyard would be nice too) I dont see it happening. (not speaking for WDS here .... just from my past experience working with JT ... as always send notes regarding your interest for such a game to Rich or post something on the WDS public forum) |
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| Author: | Mike Davies [ Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Napoleon in Egypt - Notes on Terrain |
Thanks Bill, The lack of sand terrain feature hadn't occurred to me (any chance we could borrow some from El Alamein?!) Adding in the Russian and Ottoman unpleasantness would certainly add weight to a Napoleonic Middle Eastern title, some extremely exotic troop types. It could also be a platform to develop a Crimean or Sudan title if that could fit into the workloads at WDS (which I suspect are significant) |
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| Author: | Bill Peters [ Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Napoleon in Egypt - Notes on Terrain |
I know it would be beyond my abilities. The source material would not be easy to acquire. I would include the Balkan campaigns in the game too. I have never studied the various Austro-Turkish campaigns in the Balkans since they were of little consequence to the overall Napoleonic Wars. This morning I decided to take a look at some of the campaigns to get a better feel for how they did affect the diplomacy of the European situation. One "battle" if you can call it that, was fought on the night of 21–22 September 1788, during the Austro-Turkish War of 1787–1791. One Austrian soldier fired off a musket at some of their own hussars and in due course panic spread throughout the army that the Turks were attacking! The Battle of Karánsebes, as it is known, was a "battle" whereby the only casualties suffered "by both sides" were in one army! Similar accounts may have happened during the War of 1812 in Russia as the French retreated but I found this account to be semi-humorous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kar%C3%A1nsebes If WDS or "MOD" designers were to come up with Turkish unit graphics then these minor campaigns could be tucked into the RBR game as all of the Hapsburg unit images are already available, barring any uniform changes from the early Rev. War time frame. Would not need Sand terrain. I plan on continuing my read throughout the Fall. Not exactly exciting reading but the entire Balkans situation throughout history fascinates me. |
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| Author: | Mike Davies [ Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Napoleon in Egypt - Notes on Terrain |
Helion have published a book on the Ottoman Army during the Napoleonic Wars, might be helpful. My artistic and It skills wouldn't stretch to being much help I'm afraid |
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| Author: | Bill Peters [ Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Napoleon in Egypt - Notes on Terrain |
Yes, I am pretty much off the Napoleonic series. Not sure if Rich Hamilton would pursue it. Its really niche market stuff and with all of the games they have in design I am sure that its a title that would stay in the "for consideration" pile. Some of the Turkish guys in our clubs might want to help out with a team and build the Ottoman OBs. I know I would never do it justice. |
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