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Author:  nelmsm [ Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Prussians walk on water!

Was fooling around with the Chatelet scenario from HPS Waterloo and put the Prussian unit at 31,12 into extended line. Mistakenly hit right flank rather then left. Lo and behold, the Prussian extended it's line right out into the river hex and there it sat. I was able to fire with it but couldn't move it. Who knows what those Prussian scientists will come up with next!

Lt. General Sir Mark Nelms K.G.
1st Regiment of Foot Guards

Author:  Gary McClellan [ Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:37 pm ]
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Must be a side effect of the high percentage of Lutherans [:D]

FML Gary McClellan
1st Jäger Bn
Chief of Staff Imperial Austrian Army

Author:  nelmsm [ Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:41 pm ]
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Really? I figured they must have been the forefathers of the German settlers in Texas. [:o)]

Lt. General Sir Mark Nelms K.G.
1st Regiment of Foot Guards

Author:  Gary McClellan [ Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:52 pm ]
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Hey, no reason they can't be both [;)] You been down around Fredricksburg lately?

Hm, excuse me, have a Guilford turn to do [}:)]

FML Gary McClellan
1st Jäger Bn
Chief of Staff Imperial Austrian Army

Author:  Mark Eason [ Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:51 pm ]
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Mark

That's an interesting feature, presumably they can be brought back into normal formation?

If so, this opens up a whole new concept for river crossings.

Extended line into river, reform battalion in river, extended line onto other bank, reform battalion on other bank.

On this basis, how long would it take the British to bring reserves in across the English channel [:D]

Mark
VII Corps

Author:  D.S. Walter [ Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:43 pm ]
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I find this interesting, considering that a split battalion refuses to recombine across an obstructed hexside.

Has it been proven that the battalion can actually recombine in the water hex?

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Author:  Mark Eason [ Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:34 pm ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by D.S. Walter</i>
Has it been proven that the battalion can actually recombine in the water hex?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

If they can then other than fixing the game engine to prevent them entering the water, another option is to put a stream along each hex-side so that they could not go into extended line across it. Now that would be a life-times work for someone [:D]

Mark
VII Corps

Author:  Stefan Reuter [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:59 am ]
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Nothing is impossible for a Prussian officer! Never forget the Blucher and not Wellington won Waterloo.[:D][^]

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Stefan Ritter von Reuter
CoA Armee des Niederrhein</font id=gold>

Author:  Mark Eason [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:07 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stefan Reuter</i>
<br />Nothing is impossible for a Prussian officer! Never forget the Blucher and not Wellington won Waterloo.[:D][^]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Wellington won Waterloo - that is why the battle is so named. Blucher won a skirmish at Plancenoit[B)][:D][B)]

Mark
VII Corps

Author:  SLudwig [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:43 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mark Eason</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stefan Reuter</i>
<br />Nothing is impossible for a Prussian officer! Never forget the Blucher and not Wellington won Waterloo.[:D][^]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Wellington won Waterloo - that is why the battle is so named. Blucher won a skirmish at Plancenoit[B)][:D][B)]

Mark
VII Corps
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Oh Eason get over yourself!!![:D][:D][B)][8][}:)][:p]

The fact that the Prussian arrival came forced, your beloved Nappy to hurry up his Guard attack and wastes hundreds of good men!! Besides we broke through your rear and curshed your men!! [:D][:D]

I take your diatribes as a perosnal vendetta against me!! [:D][:0][8][}:)][:p][;)][|)]

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Author:  Stefan Reuter [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:44 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mark Eason</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stefan Reuter</i>
<br />Nothing is impossible for a Prussian officer! Never forget the Blucher and not Wellington won Waterloo.[:D][^]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Wellington won Waterloo - that is why the battle is so named. Blucher won a skirmish at Plancenoit[B)][:D][B)]

Mark
VII Corps
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I fear you have forgotten that Wellington had no single battalion left capable to keep the French routing.[:D] It was not Wellingtons first battle in which he re-wrote the facts.

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Author:  Mark Eason [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:23 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stefan Reuter</i>I fear you have forgotten that Wellington had no single battalion left capable to keep the French routing.[:D] It was not Wellingtons first battle in which he re-wrote the facts.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Which facts were re-written by Wellington, from whose perspective were they facts, and by whom were they originally written and proclaimed to be facts[?]

Facts are all a matter of perspective. There used to be a very good television advert for a newspaper in the UK. IIRC it showed a young punk running towards an older man in his suit who put up his briefcase for protection against the imminent assault. The shot was then shown from another angle, wider perspective. The youth dived at the man and knocked him out of the way just as the scaffolding he was standing beneath collapsed. He was saving the man not assaulting him.

Same situation viewed from two different perspectives.

Wellington's forces battled the French all day, held the field at the end of the day, Prussians made a contribution that drew off some of French reserves and triggered and sustained the French rout. By holding the field, Wellington had brought about Napoleon's defeat whether Blucher arrived that evening or not until the next morning. The French having failed to defeat the Allied army could not have faced the Prussians the next day.

So, I figure, from his perspective, Wellington was perfectly entitled to claim victory. But maybe I am missing something!

Mark
VII Corps

Author:  Mark Eason [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:28 am ]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by SLudwig</i>
Oh Eason get over yourself!!![:D][:D][B)][8][}:)][:p]

...

I take your diatribes as a perosnal vendetta against me!! [:D][:0][8][}:)][:p][;)][|)]
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Herr Scott

Please don't take it personally.[:0]

I offer this exact same sentiment to all Prussian officers [:p][:p]

Mark
VII Corps

Author:  JTO [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:41 am ]
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I have your flank Scott [:)]



<blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Mark Eason</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="3" face="book antiqua" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by SLudwig</i>
Oh Eason get over yourself!!![:D][:D][B)][8][}:)][:p]

...

I take your diatribes as a perosnal vendetta against me!! [:D][:0][8][}:)][:p][;)][|)]
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Herr Scott

Please don't take it personally.[:0]

I offer this exact same sentiment to all Prussian officers [:p][:p]

Mark
VII Corps
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3. Westphaelische Landwehr
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I. Armeekorps
Armee des Niederrhein

Author:  SLudwig [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:32 am ]
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Thanks John!! [:D]

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3. Infanterie-Brigade and Aide-du-Camp
I. Armee Korps
Heer am Niederrhein
[url="http://www.prussianarmy.com"]Preußische Armee[/url]

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Garde-Artillerie
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