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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:10 pm 
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SLudwig wrote:
I am going to have to cancel with the girlfriend this weekend....you can never win with women, but you can win at LEIPZIG!! :mrgreen:

Mark I drove like a madman to get home.... 8)


Ran four cars off the road, rounded a turn and realized he had missed his off ramp! :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:32 pm 
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Colin Knox wrote:
That's what i love about this club a bunch of guys who really love the Napoleonic period (Scott is even crazier than me). I have wargamed a number of periods but to me nothings matches this one. The uniforms, the armies, the great struggles and the great warlord himself.

And now we have the struggle of the nations to play with. I can see a large MP game of leipzig the 4 dayer coming soon.
Well done Bill and company


Amen Colin!! It is my primary gaming Club for sure.... :mrgreen: I knew next to nothing almost 10 years ago when I joined and I have fallen in love since....truly a period of awesomeness.... :shock: 8) :wink:

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Bill Peters wrote:
Ran four cars off the road, rounded a turn and realized he had missed his off ramp! :mrgreen:


All while screaming Vorwärts! Mein Kinder, Vorwärts! Blaring Preußens Gloria! 8)

I am so excited I am almost about to cry.... :oops: I'm not kidding either.... :mrgreen:

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wiiiiirrrrrrrr click click wiiiiiiirrrrr click click
Its downloading now :mrgreen: and I am at work. But hey I own the company

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That's the entrepreneurial spirit....one small business supporting another!! :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:25 pm 
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Colin Knox wrote:
That's what i love about this club a bunch of guys who really love the Napoleonic period (Scott is even crazier than me). I have wargamed a number of periods but to me nothings matches this one. The uniforms, the armies, the great struggles and the great warlord himself.

And now we have the struggle of the nations to play with. I can see a large MP game of leipzig the 4 dayer coming soon.
Well done Bill and company


You hit the nail on the head and I think that our club is heading into a new Renaissance too. New game, members that joined to play another game we added in over the summer. Added folks from the INWC. Lots of good rhetoric.

I love the ACW a lot and enjoyed painting the figures but nothing compares to the Napoleonic era for color and variety.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:40 pm 
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Good to see the Prussian landwher is C grade. The morales look good generally (looking at Dresden at the moment)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:09 pm 
Although I have played a lot of games in my time, Napoleonics has long been my favorite. That is the reason that this is the only club to which I belong. I simply don't have the time to game like I once did, but I am quite happy to do all of my gaming now in the NWC. I absolutely love this club, and all of the fine people who comprise it. I cannot even begin to tell you how much I love the excitement about this new game. It is awesome, truly it is! :P :P :P

Bill, you have my gratitude and deepest respect for what you bring to this hobby. Thank you yet again for the wonderful work that you do on our behalf. Also, a huge thanks to the members of your team that all contributed to the success of this new title. A renaissance in the NWC? I for one certainly hope so. I am greatly looking forward to it. :wink: :wink: :wink:

Have fun guys! That is what this is all about. I still have a great deal of engineering design work that I have to get done tonight to satisfy my 'real world' responsibilities, but rest assured, I will be reading every word that is posted. I can't help myself really. I own up to my addiction, but it is never going to change with me. It is obvious that many of you are equally afflicted. Well, all I can say is, we are all in good company together. To Napoleonics, the NWC and all of the Noble Officers herein! Cheers, Gentlemen! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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Hear hear Gents!

To the swelling of the Prussian Armee with new recruits hoping to beat the French at every corner.... :mrgreen:

But seriously well said by both Bill & Mark..... :D Couldn't agree more.....

I can't go to bed...too much to be done... 8)

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Colin Knox wrote:
Good to see the Prussian landwher is C grade. The morales look good generally (looking at Dresden at the moment)


Silesian Landwehr is C, the rest (Kurmark, etc.) are D.

The team could tell you that we spent an entire MONTH in discussions on unit values before I put ONE order of battle file together. It was VERY complex. (well there was ONE scenario in progress but it was very small and only my way of getting some of the eager beavers into action)

A short run down:

French ligne for the most part the usual C. However, the raw recruits - D. Those foreign regiments vary. The Irish Legion got wiped out at Plagwitz. Only a couple hundred left when the battle was over and they were disbanded.

Cavalry - a mixed lot. The Dragoons from Russia - Light Cavalry. Those from elsewhere - Heavy Cavalry. For 1814 there are Dragoons from Spain (see one of the last icons in the cavalry set) who are veterans - hvy cav.

Note the Lancers - 1-6 wear the standard uniform. 7-9 have the more Polish looking uniform.

Austrians:
Their 4th battalions were landwehr. I determined the morale based on their recruiting region. Galicia - awful. Etc. I have a spreadsheet that I plan on making into a PDF at some time that will show each regiment's morale rating.

Cavalry - standard morale as per 1809 mainly.

Russians: not big battalions - many of the units are REGIMENTS. Morale good. I would like to have made them even better but I also know that some of the militia were incorporated into the line regiments.

Cavalry is outstanding as always. But not very large.

Guns - well you know the story here. Some of the corps have almost more units of artillery to move around then infantry!

Prussians - TONS of different unit types. And see the extra PDF I did on the regular and reserve and guard regiments for the infantry.

Frewilige Jagers - for the most part these units will melt away.

Guard Light cavalry - each squadron portrayed by its own icon.

Cavalry Frewilige Jagers - well I missed out on the National Cavalry and Landwehr cavalry types but the rest are there. Again not great morale.

Ok - the big one that we booted around was the Landwehr cav and National Cav regiments having lances. Some disagree with this but my feeling was that while the lance is nice for attacking they do not do well on defense. I felt that this was correct. Thus they can charge infantry well but look out otherwise.

Freicorps - take a peek at the Gohrde scenarios. v.Lutzow's Freicorps is present. v.Hellwig's Freicorps at Grossbeeren. Love those hussars!

Getting into the various allies - well too much to say here. Suffice it to say that I disagree with my ratings of the Saxons in part. I may actually increase them to be C morale for the Line infantry. They were poorly deployed by Ney at Dennewitz and overwhelmed at Grossbeeren. The "French" division with them was filled with former convicts. Probably the one thing I will definitely change come update time.

The maps from Jena accompanied by those of Leipzig fill up a lot of the area from Leipzig to Silesia and from Dresden to Berlin. No, I do not plan on building ONE large map. But the area covered in both games gives us a lot of latitude as to where we can have battles. It would be easy to use the Units.bmp file from this game in Jena (but not the 3D - the bases for Leipzig required special mapping in the game engine/editors so they would not work in the other games. But for 2D only games we could fight on the other maps.

There is a Fall.oob that is massive. I planned on doing a big fat scenario with it but never got around to it. Maybe sometime down the road ...

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For Club Games: I prefer the Single Phase mode of play. I prefer to play with the following options OFF:

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Good choices overall Bill...it is the most subjective thing in the game....

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:03 pm 
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Bill a quick question. In HPS Austerlitz I have been most impressed with the rebalance of the infantry vs cavalry relationship (say vs Waterloo for example). Mark and I have talked about this on email

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1. the cavalry stacking and mutliplier make it capable of really doing some damage against unsquared infantry
2. The vp points for cavalry are not so much more than infantry anymore making losing infantry less of a tactical option to draw your opponents cavalry out.
3. The net result is more historical with infantry not advancing in lines in the presence of cavalry

Overall its much better. Did you apply the same setup in the new game?

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PS I have studied the large Leipzig operational scenario and based on my knowledge of the period which is pretty good the unit morales are really the best I have seen so far. I can't fault them and it is as Scott say subjective. Eg the subtle differences between Young guard and old guard light cavalry the Garde De Honuer etc. The B grade French currissers and the A+ Von Zastrow. All damn near perfect of the state of the troops at this time.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:37 pm 
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Colin - yes, the victory points are:

3 per 25 infantry

5 per 25 cavalry

6 per gun

It is more or less my standard schedule and seems to work out well.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:23 pm 
Just because the 1st scenario is listed as'getting started' don't write it off. It should be fun hth. I just playrd it solo. Nice! Nice unit 3ds. (can we get those type unit 3ds for FIW/1776/1812/MAW, please?)


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Is this gem currently available on disc rather than by download?

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