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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 5:23 am 
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Can anyone help me.

Before becoming ill I started a project of recreating the Battle of Waterloo in 2mm (each infantry figure is 2mm from base to head). I got for my birthday a large quantity of these from my partner (lovely lady she is) but the problem is I have a lot of information on the the British Army and a hell of a lot more for the French Army, but I am struggling mainly on the infantry and cavalry uniforms and colours of the cannon for the Dutch-Belgian Army, I know they fought for Napoleon only a year before so will more than likely be in French uniform with some possible British variation and I am aware they were still using French supplied cannon, limbers etc. Does anyone know of any place I can get information for these plus am I right in saying that infantry were orgainised using French 6 Companies 3 ranks deep and with one Grenadier Company and one Voltigeur Company, and Cavalry were 2 troops per squadron.

Once I feel a little better I will commandeer the kitchen table and take a picture of the various armies etc and I built one board on an A1 size piece of card of the North west corner of the Battlefield, it is only a practice board and is missing a lot of its buildings but it was only intended to see if the idea would work. I made a few mistakes but on the new boards I was able to remedy them. I will also post a picture of this for all those interested.

I started creating the ten boards I need to build the battlefield but unfortunately illness overtook me so these came to a stop at only 3. I used the Matrix Battleground Waterloo Game to help create the hexes. Each board is A1 in size and my hexes are 4cm which mean I can fit 20 hexes across with 25 hexes down perfectly within the board. I use a template of hexes printed out and joined together as I only have an A4 printer Each board is 2mm thick so I use this as a basis of my contours, so the minimum height of a section will be 4mm and the maximum height is 18mm. Once all the various contours are cut using a dremel they are glued in place with wood glue and left to dry. once dry they are very strong and quite light. I then mark out all of the roads and rivers and add any sunken lanes which I then cut out using a sharp knife and the dremel. Once done I cover the whole thing with Mod-Roc (basically gauze bandage impregnated with plaster) this dries within 24 hours and gives extra strength and a smooth finish the hexagonal hexes. Now it is time for the messy part and the time to get told off by my very annoyed other half, by applying the flock. I used a dark green gloss but I found this would not be suitable when using wheat, wheat stubble and earth coloured flocks so I will be switching to a gloss light brown. I use gloss paint as my flock adhesive as I find it adheres better and after 24 hours of drying the excess is removed a better coating is gained. Now is the time to paint the roads and rivers and add the hedges and trees which in my eyes is the best part as the board starts to resemble the battlefield. Once done I give the whole board trees and all a good helping of a firm hold hairspray, dont use the wife's as she will hit the roof next time she does her hair. I bought a cheap can for 89p which did the trick nicely.

The buildings can be bought for a very modest price but I decided to build my own from balsa strip 3.2mm square strip 915mm long and 3.2mm x 6.5mm strip 915mm long for the building and triagular shaped balsa strip for the roofs. Cut with a dremel or sharp knife and once the roof is added and they are painted a light grey or white they make a very pleasing addition.

All in all the practice board was a success and the whole project from start to finish including soldiers will cost a sum of £400 with £140 for the building of the boards and adding the scenic details such as trees hedges and houses. For all those interested I will take some photos as I build the boards but for now I need a bit more rest but I hope to start again just after Christmas. Take care all and I am back now but I wont be gaming till after christmas if everything goes ok with my health.

Its good to be back :frenchsalute: :frenchsalute: :frenchhappy:

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I hope you feel 100% soon Mark.

There is the usual sites:

http://www.napoleon-series.org/military ... etherlands

http://www.napolun.com/mirror/napoleoni ... dutchintro


http://home.scarlet.be/~tsh40803/8/Docs/jagers27.htm


There are other ones out there too. Geert van Uythoven wrote a ton about them....also look in our Newsletters, there is bound to be a bunch of info in there.

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Thanks Scott this is very helpful, much appreciated. :frenchsalute:

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Get well soon!

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Yes, a speedy recovery. And I just hope the kitchen table is big.


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There is a website in French (but I think easy to navigate) with a lot of information for each unit and uniform:

http://centjours.mont-saint-jean.com/unites.php


There is also this map that in my opinion is the best of the battle here:
http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-rm1383-sd-cd

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Hope you feel better soon, Mark. :(

Osprey book on the Dutch Belgian troops may help too.

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Thank you all for your kind words.

And to all those who have helped not only have I gained a fantastic amount of information on the Dutch-Belgian army at Waterloo but have gained a lot more information on the other nations involved, fantastic, much appreciated everyone.

Andy, its a fairly big table but unfortunately not all the boards would fit on it. I have a 2m decorators table which fits four boards nicely, but I do intend to join a local wargames club based in Durham City after Christmas and apparently they do 2mm wargaming so should be fun, possibly a few recruits to the NWC as well.

In my late teens I had a over 30 books on Waterloo and possibly another dozen or so on the Peninsula War and others on Napoleon himself but due to my rebelious years and the need to have a motorcycle, a Kawasaki Eliminator 125 cruiser, if I remember rightly which involved a lot of saving and selling of books and other objects I managed to scrape together the money needed. Now when I look back, yes I had some great fun on that bike but I still wish I had my books.

Still its nice to be back and to see a lot of new recruits coming in, and the forum is lively. Scott a nice Coalition website, like the music and sound effects as you enter, great stuff well done.

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I don't know if anyone is interested but here are some pictures of the 2mm Miniatures I have painted recently standing on the test board I built for Waterloo many many months ago.

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Vandeleur's 4th British Cavalry Brigade comprising of:
11th Light Dragoons middle,
12th Light Dragoons rear,
16th Light Dragoons front. (unfinished)

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19th Dutch militia

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Hildesheim Landwehr Battalion

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Aerial View of the Hildesheim Landwehr Battalion

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Captain Gardiner's E Troop Horse Artillery

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Captain Ramsey's H Troop Horse Artillery

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Another view of Vandeleur's 4th British Cavalry Brigade

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Another view of Vandeleur's 3 Light Dragoon Regiments

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16th Light Dragoons (unfinished)

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11th Light Dragoons

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12th Light Dragoons

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Another view of the 19th Dutch Militia

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2 battalions of Dutch Jagers
35th Dutch jager Battalion
36th Dutch Jager Battalion

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Another view of the battlefield depicting the area where the Geroux Ruisseau and the Hain Ruisseau meet. This area of the test board is complete.

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Aerial view of the test board, as you can see this is the area of the battlefield depicted on the Matrix Battleground Waterloo and is the top left hand corner of the battlefield. in the bottom right of the photo you can see the church of Braine l'Alleud. This board was built to see if it was viable and cost effective to build a model battlefield of Waterloo in 2mm scale and it covers 20 hexes by 25 hexes of the computer game battlefield. I made a few mistakes with this board but ones I will remedy on the actual boards, 3 of which I have already started. Hope you all like and I will post more photos as I paint them as this is only a fraction of the amount that have been painted.

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Wow! Nice work!

One guy built the entire Battle of Leipzig as you are doing with Waterloo. An amazing effort.

I may have missed this but what is the scale you are using for figures? How many men does one figure represent?

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The scale is 2mm from base to top of shako on an Infantry soldier. As for fig ratio that is very difficult, but I would say around 4 figures equals one real man by the time I am finished there will be approximately 40-45,000 figures. I have about 7500 already.

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That is called dedication.

Nicely done Mark!!! :frenchwink:

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As promised for those who may be interested here are some photos of my boards depicting the Battlefield of Waterloo. There are only 3 of the 10 at this time and these are not completed as yet as they still require some more buildings added and a tiny bit of detailing done. Unfortunately ill health has overtaken me again and on top of stomach pain, constant indigestion and heartburn and other things I will not mention here for fear of putting people off there meals, I now have a chest infection and slight kidney infection so my apologies if game turns aren't as quick as they were guys.

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The chateau of Frischermont with its orchard behind and the village of Smohain (top left), and the Bois de Lionet (top right).

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The village of Smohain. The Smohain Brook runs through the centre of the village and the bridge is just visible in the centre of the photo. In the right foreground is the orchard of Frischermont Chateau.

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The farm of Papelotte with farm of La Haye to the right and the head of the Smohain Brook in the foreground.

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The farm of La Haye.

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The farm of La Haye Sainte with the Sandpit opposite. In the background you can just see the sunken lane and Wellington's Elm Tree. The troops you see are the (from left to right) 6 companies 1/95th Rifles (front), 6 companies 27th Dutch Jagers (rear), 6 companies 5th Dutch Militia, 6 companies 7th Belgian Line Infantry.

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The farm of Mont St Jean on the main road running from Charleroi to Brussels

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Looking along the Smohain Brook in the Lasne valley from the village of Smohain (foreground) to the village of Ohain (top).

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Part of the Bois de Paris and the village of Jean Loo, showing one of the entry points of the Prussian reinforcements, second road from left at the top of the photo.

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The farms of Papelotte (left), and La Haye (right) with the Smohain Brook running from the centre to the right of the photo. In the top left of the photo is the 2nd battalion 2nd Nassau Regiment.

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Looking north towards the Bois de Lionet (foreground), village of Jean Loo (middle left of photo) Bois de Ohain (top left of photo) and the village of Ohain (extreme top left of photo).

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A view of the village of Smohain (centre), with the chateau and orchard of Frischermont (right). In the background can be seen the Cavalry Brigades of Vivian and Vandeleur (top left).

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The Cavalry Brigades of Vivian and Vandeleur.
The rear line is the 6th Cavalry Brigade, commanded by Major-General Sir Richard Hussey Vivian.
From left to right these are 3 squadrons, 10th Hussars, 3 squadrons 18th Hussars, 4 squadrons 1st KGL Hussars.
The front Line is the 4th Cavalry Brigade, commanded by Major-General Sir John Vandeleur.
From left to right these are 3 squadrons, 16th light Dragoons, 3 squadrons, 12th Light Dragoons, 3 squadrons, 11th light Dragoons.

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An aerial view of the battlefield with the Smohain Brook running through the centre, the Bois de Ohain (top right), the Bois de Lionet (left centre) and the Bois de Paris (bottom right).

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An aerial view of the battlefield showing the village of Smohain and Chateau of Frischermont (bottom centre), the farm of La Haye (bottom left), and Bois de Lionet (bottom right) Just visible to the top left are the Cavalry Brigades of Vivian and Vandeleur.

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An aerial view of the battlefield showing the farms of Papelotte and La Haye and the 4th and 6th Cavalry Brigades and the 4th Infantry Brigade with a battalion of Nasseurs and a Dutch Belgian Foot Artillery Battery down next to the orchard behind the farm of Papelotte.

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Looking east from slightly west of La Haye Sainte to the village of Ohain and the Bois de Paris.

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The end board showing the Bois de Paris (foreground), and the Bois de Ohain and the village of Ohain (background).

This is only a small portion of the troops displayed, the rest are mounted on balsa sticks ready for painting. The board with La Haye Sainte on it still requires buildings and some fine detailing work around the villages and the end board with the Bois de Paris and the village of Ohain on it needs its buildings fixing and a bit of detailing work.

All the buildings including La Haye Sainte Farm, Mont St Jean Farm, Papelotte Farm, La Haye Farm and Chateau Frischermont are all constructed with balsa wood from paintings, models, plans, in fact there is a lot of misleading information so a lot of research has to be done to get near representations. Some modellers licence has gone into the village layouts but on the whole I am pleased with them all except Papelotte Farm which is slightly smaller than it should be but I may remedy this later on.

I had a little bit of warping with the centre board of the 3 so I decided to mount them all on 12mm MDF which really did the job and cured the warping and all the boards sit nicely together.

The crops are wheat (yellow), barley (light brown) and rye (grey/green) static grass and I bought them from a company who specialise in static grass and there 2mm range is very good, looks realistic when applied with the static grass applicator (basically an electric charge onto the glue and Static grass at the same time which makes it stand on end) and is very durable.

I am really pleased with the results and I am really looking hoping I can feel better soon as another 3 boards on the French side are calling out to be done. Hope you all like and enjoy. :frenchhappy:

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Impressive!! :frenchvive1:

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