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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:06 pm 
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EPISODE 2.14 -
December 16, 2005

Who is Joe Holt and why is he saying these things
Guest: Elizabeth Leonard

Dr. Elizabeth Leonard, author of Lincoln's Avengers and All the Daring of the Soldier: Women of the Civil War Armies, covers topics from the Lincoln assassination to the participation of women soldiers


Blake's Review:
Another poor interview. Look, I don't mind discussing Women in the Civil War. But this interview was all over the place and failed to really dig deep into anything. The interview began with Gerry asking the supposedly rhetorical question, "why should a Civil War reader/historian care to read about women's roles in the Civil War?" The obvious point being that war is fought by men and in the 19th Century this was especially true. The guest basically answered with saying something along the lines of half of the people in America were women and if you ignore them you can't really get the whole picture of the Civil War. Okay. Half the pets in the world are cats. I find reading about dogs far more interesting because I prefer dogs. If you argue I should read about cats more because I am failing to understand the true story of pets in America then my response would be, "so what?" I kind of felt like that here. They do discuss the pitfalls of historians going too deeply down the rabbit hole of studying smaller and smaller interest groups and whether or not turning away from the traditional historical political and war-based history is a good or bad thing for history. If people who claim to write about the Civil War can't tell you who led the Army of Tennessee but can tell you how many slaves existed in Kentucky in 1863, then that's probably a problem. They agree there should be a middle ground for historians and I concur. Teaching people to be well-rounded in their approach to the war is a good thing. But, as for this interview, sorry, I just didn't get hooked in and turned it off about halfway through.

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EPISODE 2.15 -
January 6, 2006

Toward a New Civil War Paradigm
Guest: Richard McMurray

Dr. Richard P. McMurry, author of The Fourth Battle of Winchester and Two Great Rebel Armies, presents a fresh approach to Civil War history.


Blake's Review:
An excellent interview!!! Finally, as it had been a few episodes since I had a good one to review.

This interview is enjoyable for many reasons. First, they spend a lot of time on counterfactual history which is always an amsuing game to play. Second, they discuss a lot of generals and ideas which are debatable and controversial and that's always fun. Lastly, it's simply an interview which flows well and never lags.

What happens if Lee wins at Gettysburg?

McMurray is adamant that it would not have mattered in the slightest if Lee won at Gettysburg. "Lee's army would have taken such a beating and suffered such heavy casualties [having succeeded in Pickett's Charge], that he would have had to retreat anyway." McMurray sees the battle as hardly important in the Civil War and argues that Mill Springs, Shiloh, Fort Donelson, all were more important in the long run than Gettysburg. "If you look at the battle itself, what it did, what it accomplished, what it meant, it did not accomplish or mean very much."

What if Grant is defeated by Lee in 1864?

It would not have mattered as the South would have still lost the war. If Lee defeats Grant and pushes him back to the Rappahannock by the end of the summer of 64 or in 1865, then Sherman is still invading Virginia from the south after taking the Carolinas and the outcome of the war remains the same.

What if McClellan defeats Lincoln in 1864?

Again, McMurray says nothing changes. McClellan was not about to end the war once Grant was outside Richmond and Petersburg and Sherman was in Savannah. McClellan wanted a military victory and would have taken all the credit for the eventual victory. McMurray believes the real history altering changes if McClellan would have won would have been felt in the post-war era and with reconstruction.

Could the Civil War have ended differently?

McMurray hypothisizes that it could have but only if Jefferson Davis made alternate decisions particularly in the west.

Where was the Turning Point in the War?

McMurray believes it is in 1861 when Polk invades Kentucky and ends their neutrality. From there, be argues, it is all downhill for the Confederacy

McMurray goes on to blast Joseph Johnston as a totally inept commander while lamenting the early death of Albert S. Johnston at Shiloh. McMurray argues that AS Johnston was respected by Davis and was the only one who could have worked with the president in long run. McMurray sees the string of poor decisions made by Davis concerning the western theater all coming about as a result of Johnston's death at Shiloh.

Another counterfactual idea, what if Joseph Johnston is killed at Seven Pines and A.S. Johnston is only wounded at Shiloh? The what-if chats in this interview are endlessly entertaining but, ultimately, unanswerable.

Who is the most underrated general of the war? Braxton Bragg. McMurray defends Bragg and blames many of the Confederate problems on the cancerous presence of Leonidas Polk in the Army of Tennessee.

If you are just looking for a fun interview and something to put on which will get your mind going, this is the one :mrgreen:


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Toward a New Civil War Paradigm

The heading of that episode caught my attention.

Agreed that invading Kentucky was a very bad idea. It would have been much better if they had remained neutral to leave open the possibility that some hothead in the Union would invade that State.

I disagree about Gettysburg. It is important. Had Lee won he still would have had a substantial fighting force at his disposal (as shown during the Mine Run Campaign) with a variety of options as to where to strike next. A Union loss there would probably led to heavy political and public pressure on Lincoln to negotiate a settlement with the Confederacy. Also, a Union loss at Gettysburg would have meant no Gettysburg Address and probably no Emancipation Proclamation. Lincoln's task at the 1964 Presidential would have been very difficult; McClellan may have won.

I agree that the west is where it could have been won. The explanation is too long for here, but I agree that Davis' decisions are a major factor in the failures in that theatre.

It's difficult to comment on his assessment of generals having not heard the argument. However, saying Bragg was the most underrated general of the war doesn't seem right to me.

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