Napoleonic Wargame Club (NWC)

Gentlemen,
with the recent troubles 2 of our members had regarding a game I thought it be useful to point something out.
All HPS owners that want their games updated to the level of the latest JTS patch should do it in this order:
1. Install HPS game.
2. Install latest HPS patch.
3. Install latest JTS patch.
By this one should have the most recent files and should not run into the same troubles these members had.

Thanks for pointing this out! Glad its a Sticky too.

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Generalfeldmarschall Wilhelm Prinz Peters von Dennewitz

3. Husaren-Regiment, Reserve-Kavallerie, Preußischen Armee-Korps

Honarary CO of Garde-Ulanen Regiment, Garde-Grenadier Kavallerie

NWC Founding Member

For Club Games: I prefer the Single Phase mode of play. I prefer to play with the following options OFF:

MDF, NRO, MTD, CMR, PR, MIM, NDM, OMR (ver 4.09)

I updated Jena as mentioned and I still have that "orchard" hex showing as a "clear" hex.

I mentioned it to JTS support and sent a pdf describing where it was located.

If anyone would like to see the pdf or scn file.......email me at dukemat at yahoo dot com

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C.N.Matthews

I took my problem to Rich at JTS support and he had the answer.

the problem was with my 2d features 100 and 50

I changed those and all is good.

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C.N.Matthews

That this has impact in the game is strange for me, these are just graphic files and shouldn't matter for game mechanics like disorder, anyhow good to see it solved.

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C.N.Matthews

Yea still does not make any sense, 2dfeatures is a graphic file but that the terrain should be in the map file and that is what matters.
I could change the graphic like ever I want and it wouldn't matter as the map data is what the game engine is working after. If the terrain was show as orchard in the info box it was orchard on the map file and that is why the unit disorder as the road graphic didn't matter.
AFAIk this comes down to the new 2D terrain slopes that were added with the latest patches, some graphic files from before just don't fit anymore. All the graphic mods won't work unless made for the post slopes version.

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C.N.Matthews

Clint, were you originally using a mod by any chance? Just trying to work out if it was something I did. I got mods in place for all of the NB stuff -so, if it isn't I probably never saw it.

Chances are, though, based on what you were saying -that issue was going to be caused in all of your scenarios in that title.

Basically what happened is that there was the wrong design put in a place where the orchard was supposed to be, it doesn't really matter how the map is designed as the program will call a graphic from a set location on a bmp file. That is what sounds like Clint was having happen.

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C.N.Matthews

Touching back on this in a recent discussion about JTS updates being used solely to update an HPS CD image install version 1; don't do it. No, wrong. Stop.
Running a unix difference command on the two patch directories there are 151 differences. Which means about 140 missing files if you don't use the HPS update. The JTS update cannot be used to update your HPS game and there should be no reason to transition other than the top down zoom-in code update for Austerlitz at this time. Otherwise, the JTS patches just have image/sound changes. The only difference between version 1 jena_campaign_large.map and version 1.02 is the checksum (line 3, byte 24). Otherwise, the maps are totally similar and weren't at issue in Clint's earlier problem.

That's going to depend on the patch and game. I may be wrong, but my understanding is that from here on out, patches will only be through JTS. So, say, when the post-Eylau patchswarm hits, the only updates will be posted at JTS, not at HPS. So, there may still be some cases where the patches are still essentially "aligned," but in time, the only way to be sure you are up to date is to go with the JTS patch.

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Feldmarschall Freiherr Gary McClellan
IR44
Portner Grenadier Battalion
Austrian Army

Scenario Designer:
JTS Midway
JTS Seven Years War

It may be true that the JTS patch has missing files but if that is an error or done on purpose isn't clear.
Anyhow if you want to advance to the patch level used by JTS you have to do it the way I posted it for "Austerlitz Campaign" & "Napoleon's Russian Campaign" as those have not received a HPS version of the latest JTS patch.
Only way to bring them safely up to date is:
1. Install HPS game.
2. Install latest HPS patch.
3. Install latest JTS patch.

Other HPS titles currently still have an HPS patch of the latest JTS patch, but I'm sure that will change in the future and so you will have to handle them the same way.

It looks like the most recent JTS update from some of the Nap games was not combined with the older files. That will be corrected the next time an update is worked on. In the mean time applying an HPS update followed by the JTS update should resolve any issues that exist.

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Marechal Hamilton,
Prince de la Moskowa
Duc de Barbancon

57ème Régiment d'Infanterie de Ligne

2ème Brigade
2ème Division
4ème Corps d'Armée
La Grande Armée